Saturday, November 11, 2017

General Education Course List 2017-18 - Removed Courses

With Registration in full swing, this seems like a good time to remind everyone of the slight but important changes to the MC General Education Program List for 2017-18.   Below is an update to the Memo sent in August -  

MEMO REGARDING the NINETEEN COURSES THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE 2017-18 GENERAL EDUCATION COURSE LIST:

Subject: Transfer Advising/MC Gen Ed List     Sent Fall 2017; updated for Spring 2018 on 11/6/17 - see below!

This message comes from the TRANSFER ADVISING perspective; it is not an official message from the MC General Education Committee.

For the first time in many years, some courses have been removed from the MC General Education Program.  You can see the list of removed courses for 2017-18 below in this message.

Counselors and advisers should be using th
e New Updated 2017-18 Gen Ed List with Transfer Advising Notes when working with ALL students during advising sessions; please do NOT use the older lists when helping students choose classes. 
Link:  General Education Course List  Please print out and use 2017-18 when working with ALL students regardless of year entered.


The “rule” on Gen Ed is different from the “Seven Year Rule” for Catalog DEGREE requirements.  Students may follow the Degree (Major/Program) Requirements of any MC major for 7 years from the year that they enter MC, but this “7 Year Rule” does NOT apply to General Education courses.  General Education Courses can only count if the course is labeled as a Gen Ed course during the semester that it is taken.  This means that for yellow highlighted courses listed below, if they are taken in Fall 2017 or thereafter, they will not count as a General Education Requirement because they have been removed from the list.

Why aren’t Gen Ed courses based on the year a student started?   It’s partly a technicality:  a course can’t be labeled or carry the Gen Ed “attribute” for some students and not for others depending on the year that a student enrolled.  A course either has a Gen Ed attribute or it doesn’t, and Banner can’t sense a student’s starting date to make the distinction.  The other reason is that the Gen Ed Committee reviewed each course carefully and based decisions on a combination of content, assignments, transferability, etc.  Many disciplines (not the GE Committee) voluntarily decided not to offer courses again as Gen Ed so the decision may also have been discipline-based (MATH 182, some ENGL & HIST, upper-level languages, etc.).

What happens if a student keeps following their earlier Gen Ed list and takes a course in error?  Students may file a Gen Ed Appeal to use the course – but we should be vigilant about cautioning students also. 

Here are the affected courses- removed from General Education for Fall 2017 and thereafter:

The Syllabus for each Removed Course should state that the course NO LONGER FULFILLS a General Education Requirement -


REMOVED FROM GEN ED LIST 2017-18 CATALOG
STILL OFFERED FALL 2017 & COMMENTS
Is it OFFERED in Spring 2018?
1)      MATH 113 INTRODUCTION TO PROBABILITY
No sections offered Fall 2017
No sections offered Spring 2018

2)      MATH 131 & 132 ELEMENTS OF MATHEMATICS II, III
Offered, but these course have a MATH 130 prereq so Gen Ed has been satisfied
Offered, but these course have a MATH 130 prereq so Gen Ed has been satisfied

3)      MATH 182 CALCULUS II
Offered, but this course has MATH 181 prereq so Gen Ed has been satisfied
Offered, but this course has MATH 181 prereq so Gen Ed has been satisfied





4)      ENGL 223 INTRO TO ASIAN AMERICAN LITERATURE
Not offered
Not offered

5)      ENGL 245 THE BIBLE AS LITERATURE
1 section offered, Rockville
Yes, 1 section offered, Rockville CRN 33272

6)      ENGL 248 LITERATURE OF THE HOLOCAUST
Not offered
Not offered





7 & 8) GERM 201 & 202 INTERMEDIATE GERMAN I, II
Courses have a GERM 102 Gen Ed prereq so Gen Ed has been satisfied
One section, GERM 202 Intermediate II, Rockville





9)      HIST 190 HISTORY OF SPORT
Three sections offered, 2 R & 1 TP.  This course is a major requirement for Kinesiology students transferring to UMCP and also Salisbury Exercise Sci. Major USG (HIST 190 is recommended, not required)
Yes, Four sections offered, 1 @ Seneca Valley HS,  2 R & 1 TP.  This course is a major requirement for Kinesiology students transferring to UMCP and also Salisbury Exercise Sci. Major USG (HIST 190 is recommended, not required) 

10)   HIST 209 HISTORY OF ASIAN AMERICANS
Not offered


11)   HIST 233 ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLES: 19TH CENT. UTOPIAS
Not offered
Yes, One section, Rockville

12)   HIST 236 HISTORY OF AFRICAN AMERICANS SINCE 1865 – Syllabus should note that this course NO LONGER fulfills a GLOBAL & CULTURAL PERSPECTIVE Requirement
Two sections offered, Distance Learning and R
Yes, Five sections, one Distance, 1 R, 3 TP-SS

13)   HIST 255 CONFLICT IN THE MODERN MIDDLE EAST
One section offered, R
Not offered

14)   HIST 257 & 258 MODERN MILITARY HIST. I & II
One section offered, HIST 257 @ R
Yes, One section offered, HIST 258 @ R

15)   HIST 260 THE US SINCE 1945
Two sections offered, R & T
Yes, Two sections offered, R & T





16 & 17) RUSS 201 & 202 INTERMEDIATE RUSSIAN I & II
Not offered; courses have a RUSS 102 Gen Ed prereq. so Gen Ed has been satisfied
Not offered





18)   BIOL 114 UNDERSTANDING VIRUSES
Two sections offered, R & T
One section offered, Rockville

19)   BIOL 151 PRINCIPLES OF BIOLOGY II
Many sections offered; courses have a BIOL 150 Gen Ed prerequisite so Gen Ed has been satisfied for most students; this COULD be an issue for only for Computer Science students transferring to UMBC who need three Science for Science Majors courses if they choose BIOL 150 & 151 and wait to take the third Science course after transfer; otherwise, most other majors that require BIOL 151 also have a several other Gen Ed Lab courses required (Biological Science @ MC, transfer students who are Biology, Chem, pre-med majors)
Same as Fall notes; students who take BIOL 151 Principles of Biology II and need this course to count as a second Science (Computer Science majors transferring to UMBC) can submit a Gen Ed Appeal to ask to use the course as a Science


I am sending this out now simply because we are seeing students daily now that Registration is open.  This is an ADVISING message and not intended as an official communication from the General Education Committee.

In summary, please use the 2017-18 Gen Ed List Transfer Advising List only when advising ALL students who are choosing Gen Ed classes for Fall and After. 
General Education Course List  Print out and use 2017-18 when working with ALL students regardless of year entered.
Find it always on the MC Transfer Page, under Information for MC Faculty and Staff.  At Germantown, it is available in SA 250 printed on BLUE paper to distinguish it from previous years.

The master reference point is the MC Online Catalog 2017-18:  http://catalog.montgomerycollege.edu/content.php?catoid=8&navoid=1411


Anne Schleicher, Transfer Counselor

Germantown Campus

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